The remaining time for the receipt of the order in hours and minutes exactly.ĭHL Express deliveries may take longer depending on the postal code of the delivery address. If all items in the shopping cart offer the option and DHL Express is available for the selected country. DHL Express can be selected during the ordering process The DHL Express Option is generally subject to a surcharge. to see the country-specific delivery time. ![]() The indicatedĭelivery time refers to destination country Germany. ![]() In case of items not availableįrom stock, the given delivery time also includes the procurement of the goods from our suppliers. Inhouse at BIKE24 as well as the transport to the destination address by a carrier. The given delivery time includes the entire processing of the shipment If I need to I bring my trad quickdraws or alpine draws (really long or wandering climbs).All prices incl. 2 long ones if needed to keep the rope straight, 2 long ones for the anchor. I also have 3 120cm cord slings for emergency Prusiks, for bailing, or if I run out of slings.įor sport I have 18 Spirit keylock QDs. The other 30% of the time I’ll swap out as needed for the climb. The 240cm slings weigh very little so I like to bring them to wrap around trees, long extensions to prevent rope drag, etc There’s often a bolt or two where I use a quickdraw, or some other reason they come in handy. This is good for maybe 70% of climbs I do on granite. That gives me a dozen slings of various lengths. I also sometimes climb with 4 18cm draws similar to your top ones set up with camp nanos for routes where I expect some bolts.Ģ light weight quick draws (wire gates, skinny dog bones)Ĩmm slings with one biner each (I don’t do trad draws because my cams all have racking biners) I twist rack most of them. 2 60cm, 6 120 cm, 2 240cm. I've come to really like the long draws over the shoulder like that, especially at Tahquitz where you often need a LONG extension to reduce wander. Mostly it's 8 or so alpines (60 CM slings like yours) and another 3 or 4 double length slings over my shoulder and snapped under the arm with a single or double carabiner, depending on how I think they'll be used. I tend to climb with about a dozen total draws. But my hunch is those are long enough they might bug me on the harness, hitting my legs and such. Given that a 60 cm sling is 30 long in practical application and you've got 25 CM QDs you're not really losing any significant length as an extension. From the replies, my set up doesn’t seem too weird.ĭon, here's my question to you: Do those LONG quickdraws ever bug you or get caught on stuff? I notice that they're longer than your shortened alpine draws. I guess I’ll keep my system as is until something better suits me. Sometimes I might swap out 2 quick draws for 2 alpine draws depending on the route. If I just want to do a nice, mellow climb, I tend to bring more gear rather than less. I just like to manage less stuff, in general.Īs for numbers, I may not extend cams that are well in line with the crack/general climb direction. The alpine is longer and more flexible to absorb rope pulls.Īnother nice thing about using only alpines, imo, is that it simplifies everything to have only 1 type of draws (or rather 2 with should/double lengths). I may be a bit over zealous, but I rather err on the side of more extension rather than less for nuts. Nuts needs a draw anyways, but then I wouldn't place a sport draw on nuts. Instead of placing a sport draw, I would just clip the cam direct & not extent it. For 9+/10s (in my case), weight isn't the limiting factor. However it's clear that alpines are more versatile. ![]() I don't see an advantage for sports draws vs alpines. I only carry alpines (shoulder length typically, but sometimes a few doubles if some obvious meandering in the crack). ![]() But if I take the question as "my average onsight trad quickdraw setup for a typical climb". they were like, $2.50ea for the runners, so it's a cheap experiment. they are longer than draws which is nice, but I don't have to extend them to make them longer and they are short enough that the seem to carry okay on my harness. Lately I've also been playing with a pair of 30cm nylon "draws". At some points I only had about 8 QDs, and so I'd use alpine draws on sport climbs.įWIW, I also general bring a pair of extra 120cm slings that each have a single carabiner on them. I will bring extra QDs if I want more stuff, just cause I have them and a finite amount of alpine draws. Just cause I am lazy, not cause I climb hard. So I'd rather just bring those instead of heavier things that are less functional. They are all lighter than QDs and the do the same thing. Personally, I have 7 alpine draws and bring them as part of my standard rack. I'm kind of a gumby so feel free to ignore or ridicule. "Why do you say stop using qd’s for trad?"
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